I interviewed Tony Milligan (K.C.L.) about the ethics of space exploration for Pod Academy. It was his work on cultural value in space I built on/responded to in my piece for Commercial Space Exploration: Ethics, Policy and Governance, and as things turned out we were co-contributors to that volume, so it was particularly interesting to have the opportunity to meet him. The interview touches on the cultural significance of places, along with environmental and political/economic aspects of space ethics. Hopefully my transcription came out okay: what I was hearing as ‘the sizzle of space’ confused me until I tracked down the term ‘cislunar space’.